Art Godoy (left)
Funhouse Tattoo
Vancouver BC, Canada
Steve Godoy (right)
Kari Barba's Outer Limits
Orange, California, USA
What are your credentials? What makes you authorities on the subject of machines?

We are tattoo artists, we have been tattooing since 1985. We are competent in every style of tattooing but prefer to do small realistic pieces- portraits in black and grey as well as in color. We understand the relation between machine function, the techniques necessary to achieve certain results and the act of actually tattooing. We are machine builders, we are recognized inventors, we hold 2
U.S. and international patents and other patents pending, on machine technology which appear on the machines we build and sell- they are the "Quadrilateral Electromagnetic Coil Assembly" and the "Screw Tight Tube Vice Frame." We are teachers, we teach seminars on the subject, in English and in Spanish. We have helped with the regulation of tattooing in
Mexico by meeting with shops and city councils.
Tell us about the machines you build.
First of all, our machines are unique in that there are 2 major parts which we invented, included on the machine. No other builders can claim that. These machines are cast from aluminum and brass, sometimes silicon bronze. We designed these frames
to be a little thicker than most machines because the thickness of the frame absorbs vibration, making these things hum smoothly. The coils' cores are the same width as the armature bars we use and they are square so there is a larger contact area between the armature bar and the coil. We have tested different wire gauges over the years and we don't use the common AWG 24 found in most machines these days...
We have tested different wire gauges over the years and we don't use the common AWG 24 found in most machines these days... we're not gonna tell what we use... these machines are innovative and original. All the parts, the frames, the coils and so on are our design and fabrication except for the fasteners...
Some people say that aluminum sucks to use in a machine frame, that aluminum machines chatter...
Not so, aluminum is excellent, it's light, it comes in different grades, it's easy to machine and because of it's general softness, it absorbs vibration, making the machine feel good when in use.
What about conductivity?
Tattoo machine frames have nothing to do with electrical conductivity, they are nothing more than a support, and housing for the components which sit on the frame. There have been frames made from wood, plastic, different composites and several metal alloys. You don't mean conductivity, you mean magnetism... any machine with 2 coils needs to have both coils work together as one, that's why there are yokes...a yoke is like a magnetic bridge that connects the coils, if you put the coils on a frame made from any ferromagnetic material, such as iron or steel there is no need for a yoke. That's why frames can be made from any material, as long as the material, if it's not iron or steel, is strong and rigid and provided that you have a yoke. The only conductivity you need to worry about is the conductivity of the wire, the terminals and of the binding posts... we use copper and brass binding posts and sterling silver contact screws.
Ok, got it... now, what about coils, is there a difference in 8 wrap coils to 10 wrap coils?
Let's start with terminology, the correct term is layers, not wraps. And there really isn't much of a noticeable difference in an 8 layer coil to a 10 layer coil, provided that the wire wound around these coils is the same. When the current passes through wire wound around a steel or iron post, a magnetic field is produced. This magnetism is what pulls down the armature bar. It's simple, current is made up of electrons, these are invisible moving particles, voltage is the force that causes current in the form of electrons to move through the wire which is wound around the coil bobbin. The thicker the wire, the more electrons are found in the wire, the longer it takes this charge to move through the wire. So technically, you can have a 6 layer coil wound in a thicker gauge of wire which will cause a magnetic field equal to a 8 layer coil wound in thinner wire, depending on the number of winds. The coils we have made with 6 layers of 21 run at very low settings and are very sensitive.
Oh, so that's why the square coil is so different, it's a bigger magnet...
Exactly, and combined with the wire gauges we use, this coil performs unbelievably. It's about compensation and combination. It is a very sensitive and responsive coil assembly. The machines we set up run at very low settings on the power supply. Not only have we designed this coil to be a superior magnet, but we designed the retaining washers to be easily removed in case a wire breaks and more wire needs to be unwound for repair.
What other coil shapes do you make? Are you still experimenting?
Well, we were fascinated by the idea of the magnetic field. We drew schematics of contact areas on the armature bar, we thought about not only the coil core's contact with the flat under part of the armature bar but we thought about it making contact around the armature bar. This inspired a round armature bar with a 1/2 pipe top on the coil posts. This was amazing! We also have made V-twin coils, these look like a Harley motor, we wound these in 6 layers of AWG 21 (a thicker wire) and they are amazing. We have worked with odd and even numbers of layers. Odd numbers of layers on the front and even in the back, for example 9 in front and 8 in back... we have even made a 3 coil assembly!!
How important is the coil? What makes a good coil?
What about these builders who wind their own coils?

The coil assembly is pretty important, it's not a moving part so it doesn't have to be tuned. It's a part that needs to be good from initial design and fabrication because it's properties can't be changed once the cores are milled and the bobbin is wound in the wire you choose to use. A good coil is a coil whose wire winds are tight together around a post of iron or 1018 (or dirtier) steel. The core material has to be a grade of iron or steel which has good magnetic properties. The number of layers you choose to wind around the posts, the thickness of the wire's gauge, and the shape of the core will determine how strong the magnetic field will be. A lot of these machine builders who are so proud of winding their own coils have almost got the right idea. It's cool that they wind their own coils but a half assed wind job defeats the purpose of the coil. If you are gonna wind your own coils, go all the way and learn the right information, do it right... wind them tight. The tighter together the winds are, the better the magnetic field will be. So when you see these coils where the winds look lumpy or spread apart or uneven, even though they may work, they won't be as good as a coil of the same number of layers which are tight together. When using a yoke, it's best to use a yoke made from the same material as the coil posts, though any ferromagnetic material will work, keeping these items the same keeps everything consistent.
Cool, never though of that... sounds like science...
It's true. There is a science behind this stuff, it's physics too. It's all formulas that don't change. A famous tattooer once said that "it's a constant learning experience", another said. "you have to be one with your machine"... not so on the "constant learning experience". You learn basics that never change. Play with machines long enough and you will learn that there are basic functional and diagnostic aspects which will always be constants... and these apply to every elecrtomagnetic machine set up with one coil or 2, with a pair of springs and a reciprocating armature bar... Secondly, how do you "become one" with a machine? What does that phrase mean? This act of becoming one with a machine sounds so spiritual, Not scientific. He should have said."Understand the physics of your machine and trouble shooting,repairing, maintaining, modifying and fine tuning will be second nature."
Tell us about the patents...
Patents take a long time to get, they cost a lot of money. The invention you submit goes before examiners at the patent and trademark offices, in whatever countries you are applying for protection in, and they review it and send you back responses on why it cannot be patented. They site other inventions which are similar and you have to compare them to yours and send back responses again stating that there IS a difference and what the differences are. It has taken us 5 sold years to finalize our patents. And the cost...well, we don't wanna get into that. Patents offer protection against others who will steal your idea. In this business, the amount of plagiarism is insane... look at all the machine replicas out there made by "machine builders"... they think it's cool to rip off these designs and that because the did it themselves it's ok.
Legally it's not. In the U.S.A. the person who fabricates the invention first is the inventor, some people slide in and get approved on small technical glitches, such as the original inventor missing a submission deadline but the original inventor has the rights to the patent. These builders who replicate other people's frames, basically are saying "f*ck you" to Bill Jones, to Percy Waters, and to Owen Jensen... not to mention Mickey Sharpz... there was no respect for these guys' hard work. ANYONE can take a Jonesey frame and send it to a foundry and tell 'em "make me 100 of these." if you're gonna build a machine, design your own frame, map out and drill your own specs, make prototypes and test them, and give the tattoo world and "advancement" at least! Don't go and steal other people's hard work. Copying doesn't give you credibility, it makes you look like what you are, an imitator and a duplicator... not an originator or innovator. The electromagnetic machine design is basic, but there are changes that can be made to make improvements, why steal? We monitor the industry, we got our eyes open and we are ready to take action against anyone who infringes on our inventions.

You guys wrote the book "Tattoo Machines and their Secrets", tell us briefly about it.
This book is an educational industry text book covering every aspect of the tattoo machine and it's function. Each part and component is dissected, analyzed and presented here along with chapters and subtopics on assembly, tuning maintenance, wire gauges, layers, materials, springs, spring tension, troubleshooting, diagnosing problems... and more. This is a quality book with full color pages filled with clear high resolution photographs, diagrams and illustrations on the subject. It is written in easy to understand language with no confusing technical terminology. It is available to all tattoo artists of all skill levels who will easily be able to take this information and put it to use immediately. It is available in English and in Spanish. This is the only book of it's kind out there. We are currently working on a revised version of the book. We are adding chapters and more detailed information. The artist tattoo photo gallery has grown and there will be a section with photos of "Frankenstein" electromagnetic machines (handmade machines). These are very interesting.
What was the inspiration or motivation for you to put this book out?
Well, the first inspiration happened at a tattoo convention in Guadalajara, Mexico, which is put on by a good friend of ours Sammy Ramirez. Sammy asked us to do a seminar on machines... it was an impromptu request, we weren't expecting to do it, but we did. We spoke for 3- 5 hours. The participants took pages and pages of notes and there was a genuine interest in the subject. It was the best because these great underrated tattoo artists showed a genuine respect and appreciation for the knowledge we were passing on.
That was the initial inspiration to write a book... to actually give something back to these guys who put everything into their trade, and practice tattooing sincerely and humbly. If it wasn't for Sammy, we probably would have kept the information to ourselves and no book would have ever been written! We saw, over the years, how these seminars were making a difference in each artist's work, These guys would come up and thank us, and tell us how these seminars had helped them tremendously. So we decided to write a book. We took all our lesson plans and put the book together.
In the North American tattooing circles, there are tons of egos, tons of self absorbed artists and so called "machine builders" who don't really know what they claim to know, BUT there are artists who genuinely want to advance and learn this information, guys who are not too proud to admit that they don't know and want to better themselves with this information... these are the ones we sell to, these are the ones who inspire us. We decided to fill the demand for this knowledge because it is needed on so many levels...
There's a point that should be addressed, some skeptical tattoo artists will want to know why you wrote this book. Most would agree that this information shouldn't be handed out this way, that people need to pay dues for this information...
OK, we used to feel the same way and if tattooing had stayed the same since we had started, we'd have kept our mouths shut. But now, in this industry, there are several reasons why. First of all, tattooing has made it onto t.v. This has made the demand for tattooing huge, the industry has grown tremendously and it's still growing. There are more artists than ever and more clients than ever. The result of this demand is that a lower standard of quality is becoming the norm... besides a high demand for good work, there is also a lower quality of tattoo work being done. This shabby work is being done by artists who just wanna make a buck. The appearance of lower quality shops owned, by non tattooers, are appearing on every corner. These shop owners hire artists to make them money without a regard to the ability, ethics, and educations of these artists. There are also tons of machines and related products, manufactured by non tattoo artists, in an assembly line situation. These guys do not use or understand the products they manufacture and sell. Neither do alot of the artists who order them and use them. Many of the artists lack the understanding of the machine's function, so it's like the blind leading the blind. Tattooing is a booming business and those of us who care about it, NEED to educate ourselves and others so we can set a higher standard among us artists.
That makes sense, but what would you say to artists who are offended by the printing of this book?
We say, "think about it, think about what's going on out there in our industry." Our goal is to set a high standard among artists. The scribblers out there who are working in a street shop, doing bad work, are gonna give tattooing as a whole a bad name. Wether you like it or not, we will all be grouped into that category, especially in the eyes of the uneducated mainstream world. Their carelessness will make the potential customers, who see this lousy work, hesitant to get tattooed. We feel that in every case, the cream will float to the top, the shi*t will be weeded out sooner or later... the artist who works from his home will be forced out, the shops who consistently turn out lousy work will disappear just as the manufacturers who sell junk will disappear.
I don't understand... how does that apply to your book?
It's the same thing. It's hard to believe what is acceptable to some people. Let's start with this story. A guy who works at my shop, ordered $500 dollars worth of products from a supplier, he received a free machine as a "reward" for this purchase. The machine arrived inoperable. It was plugged in and didn't run, why? Let's stop there before I tell you why... let's discuss the main issue here. The manufacturer sent out a machine, built and assembled without any thought about his reputation as a supplier, he sent this inoperable machine without any thought about the customer who purchased it. There was no quality control... Just like the artist or shop owner who lets bad work leave the shop. How can you control the quality when you know nothing about the product you are selling? Now, what if you were the artists who received this machine? What would you do?
The first normal response would be to contact the manufacturer and tell them their product isn't working... right? just like you would if you bought a defective t.v. but when you call them (and it's this way with more than 90% of these suppliers/manufacturers/builders), most couldn't give a diagnosis as to why the machine isn't running, no matter the symptom you may describe. They will either tell you to send it back to them and that they will send you another (who has time to waste waiting for them to receive the machine and send you another?) or they will give you some wrong advice or fill you so full of technical jargon that you would never understand. They will also try to make you feel stupid because YOU don't know, all this to cover up the fact that THEY THEMSELVES DON'T KNOW. In a perfect world, the manufacturers would send out machines that run perfectly, ready to do exactly what the artists need.
But in this world, they don't and it's not really up to them to do so... because unless you are building your own machines, it is up to you, the artist to learn this information and to repair and tune these machines to do what YOU want them to do.
The answer to this problem is simple. EDUCATE YOURSELVES Learn about the machine and you won't ever feel that you have been taken advantage of.
So, what was wrong with that machine?
The armature bar would not move because it was stopped on the rear coil. But that was only a small part of the problems this machine had. This machine was assembled so carelessly, it was not even tested to see if it ran. It came equipped with springs that were too thick, the capacitor was installed upside down, there was no thread protector to protect the threads on the contact screw... I could go on. It's a good thing that everyone at my shop knows his machines. That machine was taken apart rebuilt and tuned.
Back to machines... let's talk a bit about the machine building aspect of the industry.
The are 2 types of machine makers today- the tattoo suppliers who mass produce their own machines and the individual / tattoo artist who builds machines. Both of these guys are taking an old simple recipe and re hashing it over and over... as we said, there are replicas of Joneseys, Jensens and tons of Mickey Sharpz dials...frames can be made in different shapes and really it has all been done...no one's pioneering anything new. Because of mosts artists' general ignorance about their machines, this is an easy part of the industry for people to give themselves more credit than they deserve, meaning...some of the attitudes and egos are not backed by the production of a quality machine.
What do you mean?
I mean, the machines may look cool, sure they may be an iron frame, cast or machined in some cool shape but ...the way they are set up sometimes shows a lack of education. Anyone can machine a frame, or cast a frame, put 2 coils on it, assemble it with it's fancy binding posts and fasteners, a pair of springs, an armature bar, contact screw, give it a fancy name and sell it. The recipe is one hundred years old! But let's break it down. The real issue here is not aesthetic, and just because the manufacturer is well known as an artist, does not mean his machines are the best. Some artists or builders may say "It's a good machine." but ask them to name specifics as to what makes machine good and they don't know where to start.
Talking about the type of lines you tattoo with that machine does not describe aspects of the machine, saying that it's a hardworking machine doesn't mean anything. Almost any tattoo machine can be modified and tuned to turn it into a hot rod. Just by simply understanding it's function and making simple improvements.
So what should they be talking about?
The bottom line is this, if they are talking about a running machine, they should be talking about the spring tension, and it's relation to the stroke. The other components are incidental-the armature bar's size, the thickness of the coil's cores, the frame material, the yoke, the binding posts and so on... don't get me wrong, these parts are important too, in their own way but the components' details, on a running machine pale in comparison to the importance of the springs. The springs are the most important part of a running machine because different spring gauges and shapes can be used to compensate for short comings in the frame's design or flaws in distances or specifications having to do with the spring saddle, coil placement, and the tube vice hole. The rear spring and the front spring have separate jobs to do.
The tension on the rear spring will dictate how the armature bar will move and the flex of the front spring will dictate how hard of soft the needles will hit thus influencing versatility in function. This, along with maintenance, parallism, vertical lines and adjustment of distances is "tuning" in a nutshell...
Sounds like alot to digest, can you elaborate a bit?
It's really not that much, because that's all there is. Just know those few details and everyone could do this. We could elaborate more, but you should read the book. Because of space constraints, we can't get into the how to's. It is all described in detail, step by step in the book.
So you are saying that an educated artist should know this information...
Yes, anyone who considers themselves a 'professional' tattoo artist NEEDS to know it. The reason is that the machine's function is directly related to the way a tattoo will be applied (will it be done quickly? will it handle the tougher skin types?will it facilitate a smooth shade of grey? will it hit too hard and blow out my single needle details?), it will have an affect on how the tattoo will heal (assuming that the client takes care of his tattoo)- how abused or over worked will the skin be? It will have an affect on the quality of the lines, the smooth shading and solid color (assuming the needles are sharp and the colors used are good). As we stated earlier, there is a larger demand for tattooing, and because the clients are more educated on what can be done artistically, most of it is NOT flash, it is custom work. The artist should be ready to handle anything, with machines that are tuned and ready. The shops we work at specialize in custom work, some very realistic, high detailed work which demands not only a competent artist but that the machines used are tuned to be able to handle any type of work.
I see, so what do you hope to accomplish by the publication of this book?
In the industry's current state, a huge percentage of the artists are not educating themselves enough to be able to really tune a machine. These artists draw all day, they buy power supplies which have a digital readout for duty cycles, what do those numbers mean to them? They can name drop and know all the bullshi*t on who's who and who's doing what....and NONE of that is going to help them tune a machine or troubleshoot their machine when it shorts out, it won't help them to figure out why their black and grey is spotty, or to know when they are running their machine so high that they're butchering their clients' skin... the knowledge in this book will make the difference between gliding thru a tattoo effortlessly with a perfectly tuned machine or feeling like you just pulled it
off by the skin of your teeth and going,
"whew, glad its all over!"
There is a definite need for this book. By understanding the machine, an artist will be able to know what to look for in a machine he or she buys, builds, or gets for free as a reward from a manufacturer. They will be able to troubleshoot, diagnose, repair, modify, improve and fine tune any machine. By doing this, the artists will have a greater insight and understanding of what exactly he is doing when he puts the needle in. He will know the direct relation of the machine to the application of the tattoo. He will know how to run the machine to achieve whatever is needed to replicate the image exactly with all it's artistic subtleties.This knowledge will, for sure, make their lives easier, it will give them knowledge to share with other coworkers and / or their apprentices...it will better the industry as a whole by setting a standard. No one can put a price on the education you get from this book...really.
What have you guys been doing to promote the book?
We have been advertising in a few magazines, Crave is one and most recently Tattoo Artist Magazine. We have sent out informational post cards to hundreds of shops. The response has been really good. Not great.
Some artists are put off by the price. $100.00 dollars is nothing to pay for a book of this importance. We have been doing some interviews and now that the Spanish version is out, we are gonna do some promo for that too. We have interviews lined up for a few magazines in Mexico and in Argentina. Then there's Europe, We have connections over there for magazines printed in a few different languages and are distributed to 58 different countries.
How has the response been? I mean from the artists who have bought the book?
It has been unreal. So many have said that it was the best investment they have ever made. Tons comment on how their old machines are back up and running. All agree that this information is what they have been missing in their traning. Even a legend like Don Nolan in Minnesota ordered one...he's been tattooing for a very long time... it was an honor to send him one.
How would someone order the book? And what is the cost?
We have a site www.tattoolz.com it can be ordered there with a credit card or it can be ordered c.o.d.
We also have a number to call 714-647-5582, it's a voice mail but every call is returned...we can ship c.o.d. from there too. Orders outside the U.S. which includes Canada and everywhere else should call 604-879-4114. The new site for the book will be up shortly at www.tattoolz.ca and all inquiries from outside the U.S.A. will be handled from there.
We sell the books for $100.00 U.S. dollars each. There is a shipping charge of course and a c.o.d. charge which has to be added for the service of UPS to collect the payments and deliver them back to us. So unfortunately, we have to charge those fees, but it's worth every cent...each page alone is worth $100.00 dollars...!!
Anything else you wanna add?
Now, what's cool is that in tattooing we have our own ethics we abide by... most of us anyhow... but some of the things we can't police are: all the copy cat machine builders selling untuned junk, we still won't ever be able to police back yard hacks, the copycat supplier / manufacturers, the negative attitudes and egos, but we can police and educate ourselves. We should know the main tool of our trade, and begin to set high standards for others to follow...
We have been tattooing since 1985, we still make our own needles everyday because we love the craft and everything about it. Taking pride in what you do shows in your attitude and in your work, it will build your clientelle, it will set standards, this confidence will improve your technical, artistic and people skills, it will inspire others and put money in your pocket. LETS TAKE SOME PRIDE IN THIS TRADE! Lets get educated and give back to it. Let's keep it professional.
PICTURES (top to bottom)
Joe Strummer from The Clash - by Steve
Baby - by Art
Black Skull - Art and Steve's DHD Manufacturing
Twin V (red) and Standard Square Coil - DHD Manufacturing
Bullet Machine with round armiture bar - DHD Manufacturing
Both legs by Steve
Boxer Kid - by Art
Brid Girl - by Art
Dimes - by Steve
Orange Snake bright 2 - DHD Manufacturing
Bathtub Girl - by Art
Sssnake - by Steve